Well Nick came through with alot of cash he had lying around, liquidated it, and I bought an Orca BPC pack. What that entails is Blueprint Copies of enough components to create an Orca, plus the actual BPC for the ship itself. Cost me 140 mil. I burned through almost all of my existing stock of minerals, and had to fly a mining op to Alakgur in Minmitar space for the larger amounts of mexallon and isogen.
A single night of that and I'm...yes...just clicked the install button on the Orca blueprint! 5 days and sixteen hours til it's replaced, and at considerably lower prices than I thought I had lost. And I'm going to rig this one with Large Cargohold Optimization 2's. So if I have to do something over, I may as well do it better this time!
I've also been looking into wormholes again. I've scanned for months, and have only come across occupied C1-3s. Only unoccupied WHs I've found are 4s and up, which are not useable by me and my corp, as we don't have the ability to either defend from what can come in, and the Sleepers are just too much for us in those classes.
So I'm looking into buying a wormhole. Corps that are done with their WH at the moment and are looking to get out of the WH with some isk. Some want way too much, some are probably shady. The post that caught my eye was a corp selling a C1 wormhole, plus the three hulks stuck inside it. Obviously, this was my issue with a C1 WH, but one with three already in it? Awesome.
But they want 600 mil for the WH and the Hulks. That's a bit steep, and would break us at the moment. Til I get mining up and running, we won't have another large cash infusion short of selling more gear, which I don't want us to have to do.
So what is a WH actually worth?
Wednesday, June 30, 2010
Monday, June 28, 2010
RIP Orca
Well I have not had a good month on Eve, it seems. Was doing a lowsec run with my Bestower with a shuttle scout. Got two chars done, saw a heavy interdictor show up with a russian pilot, who always seem to be negative standings no matter what. So I decided it was time to cut it short. Got everything loaded into the Orca on high sec side, and started jumping people home.....
Except my orca, who I accidentally clicked jump on a lowsec gate I was sitting next to. Right into the arms of the heavy interdictor and every tom dick and harry flying by. I had a chance to get back to the gate, but of course, the lame ship bump is alive and well.
I tried to ransom, but everyone wanted the killmail on a ship that can't fight back, go figure. You'd think people with balls would want to kill stuff and have a good fight. Nope, appears large industrial ships are what everyone respects.....
I'm sure it was over a 500 million isk loss. This is certainly enough to make me quit. The Orca was the lynchpin in my entire mining operation, and of course, I never intended for it to go to low sec. Nick is going to see if we can come up with the cash from equipment lying around, but this may be it for awhile.
Except my orca, who I accidentally clicked jump on a lowsec gate I was sitting next to. Right into the arms of the heavy interdictor and every tom dick and harry flying by. I had a chance to get back to the gate, but of course, the lame ship bump is alive and well.
I tried to ransom, but everyone wanted the killmail on a ship that can't fight back, go figure. You'd think people with balls would want to kill stuff and have a good fight. Nope, appears large industrial ships are what everyone respects.....
I'm sure it was over a 500 million isk loss. This is certainly enough to make me quit. The Orca was the lynchpin in my entire mining operation, and of course, I never intended for it to go to low sec. Nick is going to see if we can come up with the cash from equipment lying around, but this may be it for awhile.
Tuesday, June 22, 2010
And So It Happened....
Running my low sec planets for raw materials yesterday, I finally got caught at a gate and lost my 90 million isk Impel. Nothing in it, no reason to kill it. He got nothing out of it except a killmail. It's hard for me to reason why people get their jollies off on killing a defenseless ship, espicially with two battleships, but it's Eve.
I had scouted, but they jumped to the gate as soon as they saw me appear in local, so they caught my Impel as it jumped through and came uncloaked.
So now I have to work the loss off. Got started selling Corp Hangars and Ship Maint Arrays, so I'll get it back pretty fast, but the loss still stings for such a small operation.
Looks like I'll be pulling my operations out of Futzchag and looking for another lava planet.
I had scouted, but they jumped to the gate as soon as they saw me appear in local, so they caught my Impel as it jumped through and came uncloaked.
So now I have to work the loss off. Got started selling Corp Hangars and Ship Maint Arrays, so I'll get it back pretty fast, but the loss still stings for such a small operation.
Looks like I'll be pulling my operations out of Futzchag and looking for another lava planet.
Sunday, June 20, 2010
Planetville!
My corpmate Nick sent me a text the other day, that he was playing PLANETVILLE. I about fell off my chair, because that's exactly what we're doing.
Ever since Planetary Interaction released, we've been babysitting our planets; in my case, it's 11 planets across three characters. We've built spreadsheets to keep track of all the raw materials we're collecting, who is processing it all, and what High Tech products we're going to produce. It's right up my alley of being the most efficient industrialist I can. Except my efficiency involves doing one thing I don't generally do: Go to Lowsec.
I am your proverbial carebear, I don't PvP because I can't stand losing isk. If I had the mountains of isk I would need to PvP efficiently, I'd do it all the time, no prob. But my character, even though he has fairly good ship combat skills, is also a hulk pilot with the skills that go along with it, first. Meaning I have expensive mining implants in my head. Yes, I have a jump clone and could go that way. But again, it comes down to having money for the ships. Maybe I'll get around to tricking out some frigate or cruiser to go PvP in, but, at heart, I'm no pirate.
Anyhow, so Nick did some checking, and discovered that low sec and lower planets have significantly higher concentrations of all raw materials. So much more so that to put our Command Centers onto planets in high sec would be a complete waste of time. So on to low sec we went.
At first, it wasn't so bad. We put most of our PCCs in Mifrata, and in Jaymass. We stayed a single jump into lowsec. When we couldn't find Autotrophs or Felsic Magma worth using, we had to go four jumps deep, through a major hub system. I guess you go where the scans take you. But, like I said, at first, it wasn't so bad. But then, the local pirates and thieves figured out what was going on, and the gatecamps began.
Like I said, I'm not a PvPer, but that doesn't make me stupid. I'm an accomplished scanner, and I've trained up to the Anathema and Cloaking. I always check my gates with either a shuttle. or someone that can bust a gatecamp with cloak and microwarpdrive. Anyone is waiting on the other side, my Impel does not come through. I leave my Orca on the high sec side to await the resources.
So this takes ALOT of time. Dodging low sec scum, all the jumps back home, reprocessing all the materials, combining them, and finally producing all the High Tech end items; it all takes a huge amount of time and resources. Which of course, is what the developers want, and I congratulate them on making both sides happy. Industrialists now have control over another aspect of the game with control towers, POS fuel, etc. And now carebears like me are venturing into low sec and worse, in search of the better and more efficient way to break through the profit margin into profitability.
So I guess I will get popped one of these days. And then I'll have lost my 100 million isk Impel, with it's three 40 million isk cargo rigs, and near 20 million in cargo expander 2s.
Hopefully I'll pull enough raw materials out to justify it's loss.
Ever since Planetary Interaction released, we've been babysitting our planets; in my case, it's 11 planets across three characters. We've built spreadsheets to keep track of all the raw materials we're collecting, who is processing it all, and what High Tech products we're going to produce. It's right up my alley of being the most efficient industrialist I can. Except my efficiency involves doing one thing I don't generally do: Go to Lowsec.
I am your proverbial carebear, I don't PvP because I can't stand losing isk. If I had the mountains of isk I would need to PvP efficiently, I'd do it all the time, no prob. But my character, even though he has fairly good ship combat skills, is also a hulk pilot with the skills that go along with it, first. Meaning I have expensive mining implants in my head. Yes, I have a jump clone and could go that way. But again, it comes down to having money for the ships. Maybe I'll get around to tricking out some frigate or cruiser to go PvP in, but, at heart, I'm no pirate.
Anyhow, so Nick did some checking, and discovered that low sec and lower planets have significantly higher concentrations of all raw materials. So much more so that to put our Command Centers onto planets in high sec would be a complete waste of time. So on to low sec we went.
At first, it wasn't so bad. We put most of our PCCs in Mifrata, and in Jaymass. We stayed a single jump into lowsec. When we couldn't find Autotrophs or Felsic Magma worth using, we had to go four jumps deep, through a major hub system. I guess you go where the scans take you. But, like I said, at first, it wasn't so bad. But then, the local pirates and thieves figured out what was going on, and the gatecamps began.
Like I said, I'm not a PvPer, but that doesn't make me stupid. I'm an accomplished scanner, and I've trained up to the Anathema and Cloaking. I always check my gates with either a shuttle. or someone that can bust a gatecamp with cloak and microwarpdrive. Anyone is waiting on the other side, my Impel does not come through. I leave my Orca on the high sec side to await the resources.
So this takes ALOT of time. Dodging low sec scum, all the jumps back home, reprocessing all the materials, combining them, and finally producing all the High Tech end items; it all takes a huge amount of time and resources. Which of course, is what the developers want, and I congratulate them on making both sides happy. Industrialists now have control over another aspect of the game with control towers, POS fuel, etc. And now carebears like me are venturing into low sec and worse, in search of the better and more efficient way to break through the profit margin into profitability.
So I guess I will get popped one of these days. And then I'll have lost my 100 million isk Impel, with it's three 40 million isk cargo rigs, and near 20 million in cargo expander 2s.
Hopefully I'll pull enough raw materials out to justify it's loss.
Sunday, June 13, 2010
Ice and Omber
Well I must say today has been a pretty good day. I managed to set up my two Mackinaws and Orca in Thiarer and mine a month of POS fuel. We own a medium Amarr POS in Usroh, our own small corner of Ammatar space. It's pretty quiet out here, no stations, very few neighbors. It's perfect for my mining operations. No stations means very few people. The roids are pretty huge, I don't get any pirates, can flippers, or loot thieves. Pretty much we're left alone to our mining and research.
I bought another Mackinaw today. Finally broke down and spent 85 mil on a contract. But it'll come in handy the next time our fuel supplies get low. I don't like having to pay for anything, and try to be as self sufficient as possible. We've got a bunch of planets set up to produce the rest of our POS fuel, so that should payu off pretty nicely.
I, by myself, run an Orca and two Hulk setup when I mine. With Nick's two accounts, I can run four Hulks with the fleet boosting Orca. It's a setup I've dreamed of since I started Eve way back in just a Tormentor running to the station every trip, or jet canning and hoping no evil can flipper came my way so I could get my Bestower.
I and Nick have had aspirations of wormhole living for some time now, it just scares the bajeezus out of us to lose so much in the process if it all goes wrong. We've made many incursions into WH space, we've raided a few offline POSes, each a story in themselves. I've left a Hulk in J112420, if anyone found my wayward ship, please treat it well, it was my first Hulk, and a good ship. We've lost a T3 ship in a C3, alpha striked before any chance of escape. So we've been quietly watching for an empty C1 or C2 WH to call our own.
So far, we haven't found one. All are inhabited, and setting up a POS and having it taken apart in 24 hours is not something we're interested in experiencing either.
Scanned down a Large Kernite/Omber site, taking it apart at the moment. Found an empty C4 today, I was very surprised. No way we could take even one combat encounter in there. I'd love to mine it out, but would leave Nick bored to tears. Will keep looking.
Forgotten out.
I bought another Mackinaw today. Finally broke down and spent 85 mil on a contract. But it'll come in handy the next time our fuel supplies get low. I don't like having to pay for anything, and try to be as self sufficient as possible. We've got a bunch of planets set up to produce the rest of our POS fuel, so that should payu off pretty nicely.
I, by myself, run an Orca and two Hulk setup when I mine. With Nick's two accounts, I can run four Hulks with the fleet boosting Orca. It's a setup I've dreamed of since I started Eve way back in just a Tormentor running to the station every trip, or jet canning and hoping no evil can flipper came my way so I could get my Bestower.
I and Nick have had aspirations of wormhole living for some time now, it just scares the bajeezus out of us to lose so much in the process if it all goes wrong. We've made many incursions into WH space, we've raided a few offline POSes, each a story in themselves. I've left a Hulk in J112420, if anyone found my wayward ship, please treat it well, it was my first Hulk, and a good ship. We've lost a T3 ship in a C3, alpha striked before any chance of escape. So we've been quietly watching for an empty C1 or C2 WH to call our own.
So far, we haven't found one. All are inhabited, and setting up a POS and having it taken apart in 24 hours is not something we're interested in experiencing either.
Scanned down a Large Kernite/Omber site, taking it apart at the moment. Found an empty C4 today, I was very surprised. No way we could take even one combat encounter in there. I'd love to mine it out, but would leave Nick bored to tears. Will keep looking.
Forgotten out.
Eve Online Ramblings
Hello there fellow traveler of the stars. Somehow you've found the jumpgate to my home here in blogspace.
My name is Forgotten Heathen, and I've plied the Eve Online trade routes for the past three years. I've seen alot, but know that there is far more left to be seen. Most of my skills lie in the industrial and mining realm, but my combat skills are far from unimpressive. I've spent my time running a couple of joined corps, Heretical Innovations and Heretics Inc., with my friend, Gnicklas. I figure I have some stories to tell, and they might even be interesting. So I'll fill the space beyond with my musings and day to day activities.
I may even one day want to look back at what I've done.
My name is Forgotten Heathen, and I've plied the Eve Online trade routes for the past three years. I've seen alot, but know that there is far more left to be seen. Most of my skills lie in the industrial and mining realm, but my combat skills are far from unimpressive. I've spent my time running a couple of joined corps, Heretical Innovations and Heretics Inc., with my friend, Gnicklas. I figure I have some stories to tell, and they might even be interesting. So I'll fill the space beyond with my musings and day to day activities.
I may even one day want to look back at what I've done.
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